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Postby akI » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:10 pm

Hi,
iam use a german gmx account with sg.

My question is, sometimes it needs very long to get a mail (from sg to gmx).

If i register somewhere with a spamgourmet-adress it takes about 2h until i receive it. Same time, i could register elsewhere and the message is 1 min later available...

So did it depends on the sender?s server ? i couldnt image that some servers send their eg. registration-mail 2h later !?

Thanx for help,
Julius
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Postby SysKoll » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:06 am

Hello ak1,

It all depends about the size of the message, the load of the server at that particular time, and the type of attack we're in at that given moment. Suppose you are sending an email to your sg account by using a certain site. Its mail server might try to connect to us at a time when we have to refuse connections because we are so busy. In that case, the mail server will put your email on hold and will try out later, often hours later, even if our surge was only temporary.

So that's why mail delay is unpredictable.
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Postby akI » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:45 am

ola, thanx for your answer.

Sounds stupid, but is there any sense in atacking sg-servers ?
Mean, did somebody doesnt likes sg, or just to test their own skills ?

Thanx,
Julius
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Postby SysKoll » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:46 am

akI wrote:Sounds stupid, but is there any sense in atacking sg-servers ?
Mean, did somebody doesnt likes sg, or just to test their own skills ?


Any script kiddie can launch a DDoS these days. There are thousands of viruses around that install silently on Windows machines when the owner uses IE and visits a site that silently installs a payload, among many methods. Then the payload reports and listens to orders on an IRC channel. If you own the payload's password, you can sell the password (and thus remote ownership of the machine) to anyone. Ten dollars will get you 1500 machines these days.

When you "own" thousands of machines, setting them up to launch a DDoS is not hard. Very minimal skills involved.

As for the "why", well, I suppose that a spammer got outraged at the fact that some people actually want to use their email without having to sift through crap, which is the purpose of sg. Actually, it's rather flattering, it means spammers think we are a threat. Also, it means that we are Real Men, since vermin and lowlife hate us. To quote:

A good man is known by his enemies. (Proverb)

and

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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Postby lwc » Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:54 am

Is that really a proverb? I've Googled it and it's mentioned in only only one site (I guess 2 soon...) in the entire world. And that one site happens to be a blog.

I've removed the word "good" and it raised the bar to 23 sites...
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Postby SysKoll » Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:53 am

An ancient Chinese saying that I just made up maybe? No?

Or, as the French will say, "C'est un honneur d'?tre l'ennemi d'un cr?tin" (it's an honor to be the enemy of a fool).
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Postby lwc » Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:17 pm

So is it made up or not? :)
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Postby SysKoll » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:29 pm

lwc wrote:So is it made up or not? :)


No, I didn't make it up, it's something I heard quoted.
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Postby SysKoll » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:30 pm

lwc wrote:So is it made up or not? :)


No, I didn't make it up, it's something I heard quoted.
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