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SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:34 pm
by drive
Hi,

I've been using SG for a long time and really like it, thanks for making it available!

In the last few weeks, I've had issues receiving SG emails though. In particular, emails arrive in my inbox several hours after they've been sent.

I could see in the headers that forwarding between gourmet7 and gourmet8 took 2h30 minutes last Friday.

My email provider has been very helpful and there is no blocking or greylisting for SG on their side, the delay seems to be within SG.

Any idea what might be causing it? It's problematic for those services that send the 2FA OTP or a magic link via email because by the time I get it, it has expired.

Re: SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:05 pm
by hilde4705
Hi drive,

yes, this issue is very annoying.
Feb 2nd, 2023, I already reported it here but as you can read there it was wiped off the table.
Nothing happened, I still see such delays. For example yesterday it was up to 19:10h (!!!).
At least there seems to be no completely loss of eMails anymore, even if I am not completely sure about this. Observing the counter on an SG address for forwarded eMails and comparing it to the incoming eMails on the hidden account is hardly feasible with such delays.

Maybe after the issue there seems to be solved your report now will help to create awareness of the error after all.

But for this some information more might be necessary:

Who is your "helpful provider"?
Can you provide some headers?


Best regards
Hilde

Re: SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:45 pm
by JFK
Hey,

I assume that the old issue mentioned by hilde4705 is not solved yet:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1901

Cheers,

JFK

Re: SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:50 am
by drive
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Received: from gourmet8.spamgourmet.com (gourmet.spamgourmet.com [216.75.62.102])
   (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
    key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256)
   (No client certificate requested)
   by aspmx1.************.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2AFD10838
   for <***********>; Thu,  6 Apr 2023 12:09:16 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from spamgourmet by gourmet7.spamgourmet.com with local (Exim 4.94.2)
   (envelope-from <bounces+*******-******-*****.******=*******.******@******.********.com>)
   id 1pkLQX-00011e-DZ
   for ************; Thu, 06 Apr 2023 08:57:05 +0000


gourmet7 gets the email at 085705, gourmet8 gets it at 120916, over 3h later.

--edit: didn't see the above replies before posting :)

Re: SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:26 pm
by hilde4705
Hi drive,

even better: an example from yesterday. I took 4 days 18 minutes between gourmet7 and mx-ha.gmx.net logged their receiving of the eMail:

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Received: from gourmet8.spamgourmet.com ([216.75.62.102])
by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx117 [212.227.17.5])
with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id ...
for <...>;
Sun, 09 Apr 2023 21:10:49 +0200

Received: from spamgourmet
by gourmet7.spamgourmet.com
with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from <...>) id ...
for ...;
Wed, 05 Apr 2023 18:52:04 +0000

Received: from vwp12890.webpack.hosteurope.de ([5.35.234.234])
by gourmet7.spamgourmet.com
with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from <...>) id ...
for ...@dfgh.net;
Wed, 05 Apr 2023 18:52:04 +0000

Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1])
by vwp12890.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM
with local id ...;
Wed, 05 Apr 2023 20:52:02 +0200


I'm not shure if that means that gourmet7 started transmission that delayed or mx-ha.gmx.net accepted it that late.

But in both cases:

What happened between?


Best regards
Hilde

Re: SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:52 am
by SysKoll
Is the problem still happening?

Re: SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:56 am
by drive
Yes. There is still a substantial delay between gourmet7 and gourmet8:

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Received: from gourmet8.spamgourmet.com (gourmet.spamgourmet.com [216.75.62.102])
   (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
    key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256)
   (No client certificate requested)
   by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CD9D64B06
   for <[redacted]>; Tue, 25 Jul 2023 12:43:46 +0200 (CEST)

<omitted some ARC headers>

Received: from spamgourmet by gourmet7.spamgourmet.com with local (Exim 4.94.2)
   (envelope-from <[redacted]>)
   id 1qOEKy-0006sL-Hp
   for [redacted]; Tue, 25 Jul 2023 09:28:12 +0000

Re: SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:46 pm
by jgonggrijp

Re: SG very slow to forward emails

PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:08 am
by cmaechnet
I can confirm I am currently having the trouble as well.

It is a real trouble when receiving emails with code valid only 15 minutes...

I do not know if I can help solving this, but if so, I would like to contribute.