Hello,
Thank you for your attention.
I'm
100% sure those emails were not in the Spam folder in the Gmail web interface. By the way, the emails are not available in my email client either (Thunderbird, configured in POP3). Not that I expected a difference but I checked anyway.
Each of those email is very different from the others (I was not generating reproducible test cases, with e.g. the same automated registration email being sent repeatedly). So, differences are not unexpected.
Note that in email 3 bellow that
the "from" looks bad to me and deserves your attention. I think unexpected feature 1 is that there is most probably
something missing before the @ "at" sign. There may be a second unexpected feature as
the "display from" should probably be longer, e.g. as "Proximus – Service clientèle", instead of "Proximus - " (not sure about the accented character, just fantasizing).
Details of a series of emails, with some lost, bellow
And now, a tentative explanation. There is
an old problem with the Subject line when it includes some non ASCII characters. I reported it in 2008 and Syskoll answered "I think that the code that parses the subject is a bit simplistic indeed.". See
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1125The Subject problem still exists, as in "Information importante à propos de la securité des c (evernote: message 2 of 20) omptes Evernote - Réinitialisation des mots de passe". Note that the message count is not at the end, note that the original subject includes accented characters as ‘é’ and ‘à’. By the way, note that the spamgourmet “suffix” is almost exactly in the middle of the original subject, as if the code expected each character to take one byte and the actual encoding resulted in 2 bytes per character, or a more complex variant of that idea.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE READ ALSO/MOSTLY BELLOW
My bet is that
the "display from" of the missing emails originally includes a non-ASCII character and that the code doesn't always fully support it. As in the problem above with the Subject. Either the code generates something weird that Gmail doesn’t accept, either the code somehow prevents those email to get out of Spamgourmet. Note that there are example with accented characters that look just fine. So, if my hint is valuable, it is only part of the story... See bellow.
Thank you for spamgourmet. After years, it's been of great use. The “Subject” problem above mostly goes unnoticed. The “From” problem is a bit more annoying though (as “reply address masking” is so handy that I wish it will be safe to reenable it soon.)
Olivier
The XXXXXX, UUUUUUU, DDDDDD, PPPPPPP etc bellow have been used to replace personal information.
Series of various emails to the same antichef.com adress. (Sorry for the use of the code style. It is not realaly adequate but it avoids the system to turn the adresses into mailtos, which are not fully displayed, at least not in Preview.)
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Email 1: Found in Gmail: proximus.XXXXXX.4ee6469d7c.productline#belgacom.be@ob.0sg.net
Email 2: Found in Gmail: proximus.XXXXXX.c00939ccf4.no-reply#belgacom.be@ob.0sg.net
Email 3: Found in Gmail:
proximus.XXXXXX.1ba97dde26.@ob.0sg.net- Code: Select all
Email 4: Nowhere to be found in Gmail, not in Inbox, not in Spam, not in Search results
Email 5: Found in Gmail: proximus.XXXXXX.1748ccf3c9.UUUUUUUUU#DDDDDDD.be@ob.0sg.net
Email 6: Nowhere to be found in Gmail, not in Inbox, not in Spam, not in Search results
Email 7: Found in Gmail: proximus.XXXXXX.1748ccf3c9.UUUUUUUUU#DDDDDDD.be@ob.0sg.net
Extracts of email 3 after POP3 download in Thunderbird:
Received: from spamgourmet by gourmet.spamgourmet.com with local (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <
proximus.XXXXXX.1ba97dde26.@ob.0sg.net>)
id 1UE5NG-0007D9-OM
for
PPPPPPPPPPPP@gmail.com; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:02:46 +0000
From: "Proximus - " proximus.XXXXXX.1ba97dde26.@ob.0sg.netFor completeness, extracts of other emails, with accented character in “Display From” that look just fine, after POP3 download in Thunderbird. Note that the accented characters look OK in the "Message" window of Thunderbird but look strange in this Copy/Paste of the source of the message. (To be clear, the missing emails are missing both from Gmail and from Thunderbird.) :
Received: from spamgourmet by gourmet7.spamgourmet.com with local (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <ecoconso.NNNNNNN.a40b21d860.artdeco#ecoconso.be@ob.0sg.net>)
id 1TvbzB-0004vU-F5
for
UUUUUUUU@gmail.com; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:01:33 +0000
From: "écoconso - artdeco@ecoconso.be" <ecoconso.NNNNNNN.a40b21d860.artdeco#ecoconso.be@ob.0sg.net>
Reply-To: "artdeco@ecoconso.be"
ecoconso.NNNNN.a40b21d860.artdeco#ecoco ... ob.0sg.netReceived: from spamgourmet by gourmet7.spamgourmet.com with local (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <etoile.XXXXXX.7a2e69d2ff.quality#citroen-ipsos.com@ob.0sg.net>)
id 1Tyi6E-0003Oi-Pr
for
UUUUUUUUUU@gmail.com; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:09:38 +0000
Reply-To: "quality@citroen-ipsos.com" <etoile.XXXXXXX.7a2e69d2ff.quality#citroen-ipsos.com@ob.0sg.net>
From: "CITROËN Satisfaction survey -
quality@citroen-ipsos.com"
etoile.XXXXXXX.7a2e69d2ff.quality#citro ... ob.0sg.netReceived: from spamgourmet by gourmet.spamgourmet.com with local (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <biblio.XXXXXX.d0b1c0c16e.bibli.arlon#bibli.cfwb.be@ob.0sg.net>)
id 1UBRg8-0008PG-Sk
for
UUUUUUUUU@gmail.com; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:15:20 +0000
From: "Bibliothèque Communale d'Arlon -
bibli.arlon@bibli.cfwb.be"
<biblio.XXXXXX.d0b1c0c16e.bibli.arlon#bibli.cfwb.be@ob.0sg.net>
UPDATE - WARNING: The text above was edited and copy/pasted with multiple applications. Including MS-Word that "
improved" it... So, in some cases, the '<' and '>' ("lower than" , and "greater than" characters) around adresses have been lost in the process.