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Spam forwarded from hidden address?

Postby user32 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:20 am

I'm receiving e-mail sent to addresses I've hidden. There are no exclusive senders associated with the hidden addresses. The only thing I can think of is that the spammer is using "neverbox" in the from section.

Also, e-mails I put in "trusted" are no longer being recognized as such. Because I lump all of my mailing list mail under a few addresses, this means that I have to re-up the count on them every day or risk missing some. The "trusted" address list was a very handy feature, is it going to be turned back on soon?
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Postby josh » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:42 am

trusted or exclusive?

Check again for email sent after today - we fixed a problem related to reply-to addresses that may have had some larger effects.

With regard to the hidden addresses - are the messages coming To: them, or From: them?
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Postby user32 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:14 pm

None of these addresses have exclusive senders assigned. For my mailing lists, I added the senders' addresses to the trusted list. When this started, I first checked to make sure the sending addresses hadn't changed and then I turned off the "reply address masking" feature just to make sure. I'll reset the counts today and see what happens tomorrow.

With regard to the hidden addresses, here is the header of one of the forwarded messages I received today, with my info written over:
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Delivered-To: [my real address]
Received: by 10.103.175.16 with SMTP id c16cs281436mup;
        Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:04:47 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.141.36.17 with SMTP id o17mr110127rvj.152.1246543485711;
        Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <akinyialice@neverbox.com>
Received: from gourmet7.spamgourmet.com (gourmet7.spamgourmet.com [216.75.62.102])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 32si315371pzk.149.2009.07.02.07.04.44;
        Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of akinyialice@neverbox.com designates 216.75.62.102 as permitted sender) client-ip=216.75.62.102;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of akinyialice@neverbox.com designates 216.75.62.102 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=akinyialice@neverbox.com
Received: from spamgourmet by gourmet7.spamgourmet.com with local (Exim 4.63)
   (envelope-from <akinyialice@neverbox.com>)
   id 1MMMx7-0002uE-VH
   for [my real address]; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:07:54 +0000
Received: from [93.37.241.146] (helo=fabio2870a2ebb)
   by gourmet7.spamgourmet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
   (envelope-from <akinyialice@neverbox.com>)
   id 1MMMx7-0002so-B4
   for [my sg address]@neverbox.com; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:07:53 +0000
Message-ID: <001501c2b40b$0a463b50$7f000001@fabio2870a2ebb>
From: "Akinyi Alice" <akinyialice@neverbox.com>
To: <[my sg address]@neverbox.com>
Subject: Ladies like long action zarp jilted ([my sg address]: message 3 of 20)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 16:04:52 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
   format=flowed;
   charset="koi8-r";
   reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579
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Postby josh » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:04 pm

that one just looks like someone sent spam to an unexpired disposable address (that happened to be hidden) - but am I missing something? Hiding addresses from the list doesn't deactivate them - it just makes it so you can't see them. You can "zero" them out if you want them to stop working prior to their natural terminations
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Postby user32 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:39 pm

josh wrote:that one just looks like someone sent spam to an unexpired disposable address (that happened to be hidden) - but am I missing something? Hiding addresses from the list doesn't deactivate them - it just makes it so you can't see them. You can "zero" them out if you want them to stop working prior to their natural terminations


The FAQ compared hiding an address to deleting it so I assumed that it deactivated it. My bad for misinterpreting, then.
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Postby josh » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:51 am

I see the issue -- once they run out people sometimes want to delete them so they don't have to look at them anymore, but the problem is that if you deleted them, they'd re-appear (with a full set of messages) when the next message came in, just like they did when they were new -- for that reason, hiding them is like what people think deleting them would be like after they run out of messages.
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Postby user32 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:18 pm

I've always understood that hiding doesn't remove an address completely, but I did incorrectly assume it deactivated it. (Although, I admit don't understand what the big deal is about deleting addresses. So an address would reappear with full count when used again. I'd "risk" that to remove addresses I haven't received anything from in a long time and don't expect to receive mail from again.)

Today I checked and SG is still increasing the counts for mail sent by my trusted senders.
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Postby Andy_ » Tue May 01, 2012 3:35 am

josh wrote:I see the issue -- once they run out people sometimes want to delete them so they don't have to look at them anymore, but the problem is that if you deleted them, they'd re-appear (with a full set of messages) when the next message came in, just like they did when they were new -- for that reason, hiding them is like what people think deleting them would be like after they run out of messages.


I don't understand why a deleted address would re-appear when the next message came in.

Surely, if the address is deleted there is no address to re-activate!
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