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Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spam

Postby lwc » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:10 pm

In the last 24 hours, basically all of the messages I got from Spamgourmet ended up in my Gmail's spam folder.
Does it happen to anyone else in Gmail or any other ISP?

If so, did something happen? The headers show the SPF as PASS, so I don't know what's going on.
Does it also mean outgoing messages arrive to people's spam folders? That's even worse as I can check my spam but I can't make others do the same.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby moofey » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:05 pm

I have noticed the same: all mail to my SG aliases is going to Gmail's spam folder as of the last day or two. I came to the website to see if I could find any more info about it.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby lwc » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:06 am

Then could you edit your post in the other thread and add a link to this thread?
Thanks!
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby jgonggrijp » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:12 am

Maybe report this to gmail in case it is a policy change on their side.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby r2d2 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:21 am

I created a filter that is set to not have any alias go to spam.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby lwc » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:30 pm

This situation is so bad that I consider doing the same myself, but it will roll the problem under the rug.
How do we know for sure our outgoing messages don't arrive to people's spam folders 100% of the time?

I don't know how to ask Gmail to unblacklist a mail domain, do you? Forums out there suggest there's no such thing and you just have to follow their rules.
I know Spamgourmet's headers have spf=pass like Gmail asks, but Gmail also wants DKIM (with more than 1024 bits) and a declared DMARC policy.
Can anyone confirm Spamgourmet has those?
Google's Check MX shows this (note I told it to use a blank DKIM Selector not knowing which to type):
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby csha » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:13 pm

jgonggrijp wrote:Maybe report this to gmail in case it is a policy change on their side.


I reported this to gmail including a screenshot. Today the problem has lessened with my emails so hoping they have changed something.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby lwc » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:33 pm

To me it got completely fixed a few days ago. :D I gave it a few days before writing here to make sure it really got fixed.

No one here confirmed whether it affected outgoing messages or not. @r2d2, I think you should remove your filter in case you want to know when your outgoing messages get blocked too.

@csha, what do you mean you reported it to Gmail? How? If you just clicked the "feedback" button, I doubt it made them fix it in 1 day.

I think Spamgourmet should use this time to put DKIM and DMARC records ASAP.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby csha » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:11 pm

lwc wrote:@csha, what do you mean you reported it to Gmail? How? If you just clicked the "feedback" button, I doubt it made them fix it in 1 day.


Yes, I just used the feedback button while in the spam folder.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby lwc » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:24 am

lwc wrote:I think Spamgourmet should use this time to put DKIM and DMARC records ASAP.

Sorry in advance for the exclamation point, but it started again!
Every single Spamgourmet message arrives to Gmail's spam folder, so I ask again:
How do we know for sure our outgoing messages don't arrive to people's spam folders?
I beg the new mysterious admin to read this and do something.
So far in October, Spamgourmet had only 1 spamless week.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby moofey » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:02 pm

Same experience here. Cleared up for a while, now back to all SG forwards in the Spam folder.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby lwc » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:48 pm

I'm almost afraid to write this but looks like it was fixed again (it started to work by the end of the weekend)! :-)

I hope it's not a matter of time before it happens again, seeing that this thread is pretty much ignored.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby rutlander » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:13 am

You can just setup a filter within gmail to stop routing messages from your usual spamgourmet domains into the spam folder, its not ideal but its worked for me. Hopefully Google will sort this out at some point.
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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby lwc » Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:37 pm

rutlander wrote:You can just setup a filter within gmail to stop routing messages from your usual spamgourmet domains into the spam folder, its not ideal but its worked for me.
lwc wrote:No one here confirmed whether it affected outgoing messages or not. @r2d2, I think you should remove your filter in case you want to know when your outgoing messages get blocked too.


Hopefully Google will sort this out at some point.
I think Spamgourmet should use this time to put DKIM and DMARC records ASAP.

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Re: Messages from Spamgourmet suddenly arrive to Gmail's spa

Postby rutlander » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:21 pm

If your message bypasses the spam filter due to your own filter, you get a big notification at the top of the email 'this bypassed the spam filters due to your filters'
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